Having no trouble with the windage adjustment, but the elevation reticle is giving me fits. I am willing to overlook the poor paint finish and even the loose stock (could probably shim it to prevent wobble), but I'm not too sure about the fact that it can't maintain air pressure for an extended period. The only oils I have in the house are cooking oils. Despite reading the reviews on the Daisy 22 SG, and the Benjamin 392, Im stuck on which one I should choose. Airgunners just like you asking and answering each other questions and sharing airgun related stories. Yes, you can pump the Benjamin. It is lightweight, compact, and recoilless, allowing you to have more control over your shooting when you use this air rifle. At eight pumps they go straight through with the same size hole coming out as went in. Yes, the POI should move with each additional pump. Ill get pellgun oil somehow (i might order it if i have to). So Ill have to get glasses just like everyone else in my family. PS don't for get the daily blog at/blog//. You wont be sorry. As far as pest (squirrel) control goes, and assuming an identical-to-comparable level of shooter accuracy between guns, what is a better bet: a higher FPS .177, or a lower FPS .22 ? I got my 392 via regular land transport (2 days) today. Thomas. The variable pump feature provides from 500-800fps. My oldest Sheridan was made in the early 1950s and its still shooting fine. There are a couple of different listings on online retailed websites with different prices. A new blog is posted Monday through Friday at. They are more trouble to install, but they do lock up tight. On my 397, I installed the B272 intermounts with the accu-shot off-set mount. Benjamin 392 Air Rifle Features Elegant hardwood stock All metal barrel construction Beautiful and functional Brass bolt and hard ware Fully Functioning safety Click here for California's Proposition 65 warning. Single-stage trigger. If there is no significant difference in accuracy is there anything else I should consider (target knockdown power, etc) when making this choice? Im getting sub 1 inch groups in the center of the bulls eye at 20 yards at 8 pumps with a peep sight using gamo hunters. so low that the front sight is just below the slot in the rear site. Thank you very much for your time.-Robert. But when you get used to it, it will become second nature and you can do it without a second thought. Other people would like to read your questions and you are hidden here, because of the Google software. 150 dollars is a lot of money (for me) and get many ideas of wat else i can buy with it( i guess im an impulse shopper) what is the izhs accuracy at about 30-40 yards? Alabama!! Posted by 24 days ago. The average velocities of Benjamin 392 over Chrony test using 8 pumps are : The maximum velocity for this gun is 685 FPS ( about 209 meters per second). Id recommend the 392 .22 caliber version of this rifle for game control. I was just on the GTA site a guy by Name Bob did a disco .25 using the benjamin. Your valve has dired out from the gun being stored without air in it and this should fix it. (Im thinking maybe the 397 due to smaller pellet). 2. No worries though, Ill just keep looking. On the right column is the same thing you saw on this page, plus there are links (connections) to previous blog posts by month and year. By the way, my own credit card info was stolen and used to by jewelry in Japan, so I know how your parents feel. I am going to keep the 397 but if there is a reasonable $200 price range single cock with scope or fiber optic sight that would get the job done I would appreciate the advice?RR. I have a medical problem and am afraid of the pump models. Im a strong guy, and wouldnt have to worry about the extra effort to pump. Isnt it great how a simple thing like an old pellet gun can bring back memories of a wonderful time? A couple more beginner questions: What is a more typical distance that people sight these guns it at? I have a .22 cal benjamin model 342 and was wondering if there is a kit i can repair it with. Similar . I have tried quite a few prototype peep sights and I wasnt getting very good results with them (loose, wobbly, etc.). I own a benjamin Sheridan 397 and I was wondering what your opinion on this is regarding the power of it. Finally, the rifle will not hold air for longer than a few minutes. thanks a whole lot bb, there was no pop (thats good right?). I like my Crosman 140 and its cousin the Benjamin 392. Is that correct? Take two. . Also I am living in NJ and I am forced to shoot indoors I have a 55 foot+ range with cement walls do you think this rifle is too powerfull to shoot indoors? But, if youre not planning to hunt, the 397 is your best bet. I sight in for 20 yards, then learn how much to hold under when the target is closer. You have a reapeat customer for sure. i pull back the bolt and pull the trigger but no air comes out. Any info you have would be most appreciated. I can get a blue streak locally. This is really highly accurate gun for under 50 yards. Having said that, its best to ask Pyramyd Air when you place your order. Benjamin Trail NP. You cannot go wrong with this gun: its sturdy, reliable, durable, recoilless, and is built to last for years with very little maintenance. No gaudy scopes, lasers or SWAT team bolt-onsjust a simple means to a beautiful lawn and garden. Oddly enough, I went to the Crosman website, and neither of its newest 392 or 397 manuals have the lateral sight instructions. You are asking about a major machining project. A five dollar tin of pellets on Pyramydair has an extra 10 dollars of shipping added to it too. Thats just a play on the company name. I know a decent .22 can be had for that much, but I've stated my reasons for not wanting it. what do u think? Gas ram is an excellent system, gives you the benefit of a smoother action and quieter shots. bb, Im really intrested in picking up a 397, I am also very atatched to a leapers bugbuster 2 that I have mounted on an old daisy powerline.Will the bugbuster mount far enough back on the 397 to shoot comfortably? if you are not into historic or collectibles, buy the new rifle for $30 more and get a warranty. But as I said earlier, you can get a scope/peep sight with a special inter-mount to use on this one. The reason we invented this scope mount is to solve the breech separation issue, and it's a BIG issue. Thomas. thanks for the replies. That must haved ruined your day, would it be rude of me to ask how much u lost? I did take my old 98 model 397 to an authorized service center to be checked out. A superb quality gas ram break barrel. The Pellgunoil you put in the rifle is petroleum-based, so of course it will detonate (not diesel! Have you ever tried them with the 392? She should be able to handle four or five pumps as well. When I was zeroing the scope during the rifles first use it developed a wobble in the pump handle (only going to 8 pumps when 10 is the max). How do I browse to the current page? Your recently viewed items and featured recommendations. You can access, and become a part of, this current discussion by going to the most current article that B.B. If it pops, you just released the extra air. Benjamin Airguns- Model 392 Bolt Action .22 Pump Air Rifle. Would you give me a description of barrel dwell in regards to heavier pellets? i guess co2 refills could be a problem. Thank you for all of the great info contained in this Blog. The cocking bolt seems like it would loosen up and fall open once it has worn down. It keeps a low profile on the gun, and keeps that area free right over the breech where you naturally want to put your hand to pump. It doesnt sound bad, but Ive never heard of it before. Thats it. Thomas. Thank you very much, BB, your blog has been extremely helpful. The steel barrel doesnt wear in human terms. There are no videos on how to do this, as it has only been done a few times. Plinker; Posts: 234; yes; Benjamin Airguns Founded in 1882, Benjamin Airguns builds innovative air guns that are steeped in tradition but never bound by it. Will the model 392 repair kit at pyramydair be compatible with my model 342?Thanks,Jovie. An email from Pyramydair for 10% off the price clinched my decision. Do you know in what major ways the Benjamin and Sheridan differed prior to the merger/buyout? Up to five pumps will be easy. Its normal. Its accurate and inexpensive. You have been great helping me get what I need. is, but I know its a lot. . They seem to shoot forever with a minimum of attention and expense, unlike springers, PCP and Co2 guns.I put a low powered shotgun scope on my 392 but later went to a red dot sight as the red dot seemed to be just as accurate and was much quicker to use. What pellets should I get? Hi B.B. the izh 61 gets the air pressure from cocking the side lever, right? If anyone knows where to get one please email me @ derrickhand72@aol.com thanks (Jeremy). Because if Im not mistaken, the LE is only meant to take a scope.-BCS. Whenever I make a circular hole for the peep sight and I look through it the hole seems to distort, like the light is stretching to the upper right and lower left. I also got the recommended Williams peep sight. Thank you very much BB, youre the main reason I always get my stuff from pyramidair. Lets look at the latest rendition in a line of air rifles that had their beginnings more than 60 years ago. Crow mangums gave .65 with 5 shots. I suppose Ill have to wait and see for myself. Thanks for all your info B.B. This posting is one of the all-time most popular ones and many like you have told us they love their 392 or 397. i ordered a c9 blue streak on sunday and was wandering if 20 cal is enough knock-down power at 30 yards with a well placed shot, also i have the 14.3gr cylindrical pellets. Benjamin 392 PA +Mods Crosman 1322 +Mods Crosman 1400 Kral Puncher Breaker .177. ev-in-az. I should note that for the purpose of this post, I did attempt to also reattach the sight, but I quickly gave up because it seems far more difficult than removing it. Thanks for thinking I know the answer to this, but I dont. The peep sight used to be a very simple affait to install. This is a job for an airgunsmith. Yes to a blog on your Steriod Streak, When you have the time. It has an angle bracket that screws into two screws to the side of the receiver of the 392/397, A standard Williams Peep sight with dove tail mounting will not easily adapt to the 392/397. The Daisy is also harder as the number of pumps increases, but not as hard as the Benjamin. The groups are nice and tight, just in the wrong place. Is that correct? how accurate are the cb9 20 cal rifled barrels and will they still maintain the ware from many tins of firing ?I still shoot a sheridan c-series I ave had since 1979 though its due for a reseal job for the first time! I found the effort to pump up the gun was very easy, even up to the max eight pumps. would oil for a gas airsoft guns work it is silcon here is the link. How many rounds does it take to break a rifle like this in? Did you know there is an active discussion taking place on the current blog. I cant say enough about this rifle. The dot sight ia not faulty, the mount is slanted down. Crosman has a Williams Peep sight made expressly to mount on the 392/397. What do I need to do now or what part(s) needs to be replaced/fixed. The power of the Blue Streak and the 392 are identical. The Bug Buster is 4 power, the Bug Buster 2 is 6. 44 years later it still works I have been plinking soda cans. But the Spanish and Chinese guns are too iffy to say without testing and I havent tested the SS 1000. Ill be in touch later. It needs Weaver rings. They hold all the answers you need. Do you need to remove both those screws or only one. Fiction Writing. 35 shooter. The Benjamin 392 requires very little maintenance: You only need to use a light coat of Crosman PellgunOil in the barrel to prevent rust. Thats with a 392. I was wondering what your recomendations would be on what cal to get either the .177 or the .22 I am trying to get rid of a couple blackbirds near my house. The caliber is .22 and the pellets of Choice are JSB Exact Jumbo 15.9-grain (domed), Beeman Kodiak, Logun Penetrator 20.5-grain (not the 16-grain), and Crosman Premier in the cardboard box. This airgun is the stuff legends are made of. I know the only difference is the caliber. Benjamin purchased Sheridan in 1972 and continued producing the Model C until 1992. (For now I am only considering multipumps although the 22cal Bejamin springer did catch my attention.). I just ran out of pellets today, too. Just stronger than all the rest. my home range is about 30 yards, so i wanted to see downrange, however if you think a peep sight would be better id follow your advise. Have you oiled the pump head with Pellgunoil recently? Though my very first, out of the box, groups were as tight as you said theyd be (shot at 10M), they were just a bit high and right. I purchased another one and must admit that it brings me back to my youth. I will turn it up for a higher impact point and all of a sudden the next few shots will fall to far to the left and move a few clicks up from its last impact point. Ive been out shooting the Benjamin for the past two hours and my arms are getting sore! I find this slightly awkward when working the pump handle and taking aim (just when I settle in with a good sight picture, the stock moves and I have to reacquire.) I dont mind paying an extra 50-100 bucks or so for much better quality. I was thinking of using a durable, yet pliable plastic of some sort. I guess I was thinking backwards in regards to the scope tilt. The current page of the blog will open. Thomas. On Feb. 4th 06 Doug called his 1960s pellet rifle a Benjamin Franklin. These used to be different guns made by different companies. I answered this question on the other post you attached it to. Thanks for the help pre-purchase and with the sight question! Will the replacement seal kit sold on pyramid air fix this or is there anything else i will need? would i be able to shoot it out? Is the buttstock, its terrible! or a long tube with a hole in it? Anyways, I stick to the 6 pump method with everything but the heavier pellets like the silver arrows, crow-mags, and my personnal favorite the predators. Featuring 12-shot .. C$749.99 Benjamin Benjamin 397 .177 Cal - Synthetic The classic multi-pump rifle from Benjamin Sheridan is now available in a synthe.. C$359.99 Benjamin Benjamin 392 .22 Cal - Synthetic C$359.99 Sale -20% Benjamin Spare Magazine for Marauder .25 Cal C$25.00 C$19.99 Thanks!!! 2. The 392 looks like it might be my next rifle for pest removal. It will take foxes at 25 yards and crows at 50 with ease. Moreover, hardwood can be refinished easily at any time so it has a very long lifespan. Human error affects the groupings quite a bit for me! Pyramyd Air is the largest airgun store in America many times larger than all other airgun dealers combined. I am unable to adjust the rear sight any lower and yet am still shooting high. i know i get the 4th tin free but is it worth it to buy 3 tins? But the rewards will be good indeed! I was now getting 2 inch groupings! Is the scope the problem??? Most are British, though quite a few are Chinese. These are Leapers scopes that focus as close as 3 yards. Neither Walmart nor the BPS had the silicon chamber oil much less pellgun oil. With the current Crosman-made products, the .22 392PA and the .177 397PA are traditionally called Benjamins while the same gun in .20 is a Sheridan, even if Crosman won't print those names on the guns! Whats the difference between pellgunoil and weblube? In other words, would four pumps produce in the neighborhood of 500 fps velocities and good accuracy on a repeatable basis? What you need to do is select all of your comment and copy it before posting. Use it the way it comes from the factory! Its a lot of money but I think when I start shooting the Talon SS I will be glad I bought it. There are a few differencesMy old Sheridan had a fine walnut stock, and the safety was locatedI believeon the right-top side of the receiver. The Blue Book provides general; guidelines as to when certain Blue Streaks were made. He handed me one of his 20 gr Eun Jin pelles he uses on his Sumatra and I still nailed the spoon at 20 yrds with out needing to adjust for elevation. Yes, definitely keep a pump of air in you 392 at all times. When you finish shooting be sure and store your 392 with a couple of pumps of air in it. I found that there were quite a few other rifles that I wanted, in particular, the Webley Xocet and the RWS 34. What scope would you recommend (other than Crosmans)?Thanks! B.B. Or should I try out the Crosman 800x? Which front screws do I tighten and loosen to get the aim more to the right? 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