Yet, several high-profile pastors who have longtime supported Driscoll have stayed silent, including Jimmy Evans of XO Marriage, Robert Morris of Gateway Church, and North Coast Churchs Larry Osborne. Five months since the firing of adulterous NYC superstar pastor Carl Lentz which exposed rifts across the church, fraud accusations and congregant allegations of abuse Hillsong's senior pastor. 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After the roundtable the comments drew criticism, including from one of the other people on the stage rapper, Lecrae. Also named as a director is Randal Taylor, whos a chief strategist at a leading Christian marketing firm,Dunham and Company. This is truly an incredible opportunity for Christs Kingdom and we are grateful to our Lord for this blessing. And perhaps you shouldnt. I dont think there is a silver bullet answer. Hillsong leaders have criticized the Discovery+ documentary, saying its slanted portrayal is an attempt to harm the church, not an effort to present a true and fair account its ministry work. Such is the case with the mega-church pulpit. In part, I think, you know, we've already had some of these conversations about other celebrity pastors who sort of were their church in a lot of ways. Such is the case with the mega-church pulpit. Yonat Shimron. Christian News Network found a video posted online under Marcus Pittmans personal Facebook page. These are all points of seeming disagreement with White. Your friends, your co-workers, your church, your family, literally everyone turns into this system of satellites that orbit around your position. If youre the church of Jesus Christ, thats really problematic.. This is so often the life of a mega-church pastors. They are surrounded by people, yet nobody knows them. Nobody. In an Instagram post on April 6, Hillsong Worship announced its withdrawal from an upcoming tour with Casting Crowns and We The Kingdom, saying, Uniquely, Hillsong Worship is not and has never been a band. It was only after that third which cost them two years of their life and much more that they started asking these bigger questions. The legacy of composer Richard Wagner, another giant in the Western canon, is frequently relitigated because of his antisemitism and Hitlers embrace of his music as a symbol of German greatness. The suit is pending despite the announced vote outcome. Welcome. When our feelings are hurt because we dont have the voice in leadership that we think we should have, we complain and manipulate. STONE: Absolutely (laughter). The third was working at Gospel for Asia headquarters. All rights reserved. In response to The Posts request for comment, Hillsong sent Houstons apology tweet. So its you, alone. The currency of being a pastor is the spiritual well-being of people, which is a wholly different perspective than simply viewing them as a dancing sermon monkey. Image Source: YouTube Screenshot/Saddleback Church. Driscoll did not submit to his own churchs (Mars Hill) discipline before he high-tailed it out of there. This is a big moment for me!. Hi. Houston co-founded Hillsong with his wife Bobbie in the western suburbs of Sydney, Australia as an offshoot of his father Frank Houstons Sydney-based Pentecostal church. Morris also publicly supported Driscoll less than eight months ago. Jonathan Merritt. Haydn, though a far-flung parallel, is relevant as one example of a composer whose music has transcended its provenance as a product of the patronage of an unjust system or corrupt organization. But the controversy began in 2021, when Warren ordained three women as pastors, prompting discussions within the denomination about possibly expelling the megachurch. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. What is involved in the collectivism of any Church, has to be negotiated before getting to whatever adherence to Biblical meaning provides us. By using this website, you accept the terms of our Visitor Agreement and Privacy Policy, and understand your options regarding Ad Choices. She claimed that she tried to end the relationship that September, and Lentzs wife learned of the affair the following month. This was the first video by a nonwhite artist to broadcast on the MTV network. What needs to exist or be stripped away in American Christian culture that gives our pastors a fighting chance of doing their job without turning into yet another mega-cliche? In an email to the three pastors obtained by The Roys Report, former head of Trinity Church security, Chad Freese, alleges that Driscoll and his staff have committed immoral, unethical, and unbiblical behavior. Any shepherd (pastor) who speaks before a room of applauding and affirming shepherds (pastors) to defend and reinstate a fellow shepherd (pastor) who fled an investigation as to whether he severely wounded and abused the sheep under his care ceases to become a pastor and is now leading a pack of wolves. I dont see any way these other pastors can stop Driscoll. When the pastor says, Hey church, lets do XYZ!, hundreds of people do XYZbecause of the awesome pastor. I am grateful that there has been some action made as a result of person after person sharing their negative experience of Hillsong Church, but there needs to be a lot more progress made by Hillsong Church and specifically Brian Houston in light of all of the stories that have come out recently, Jenna Babbitt, a current Dallas resident and former Hillsong NYC congregant, told The Post. To meet Driscolls demand, one staffer canceled his sons birthday party, another disrupted long-anticipated vacation plans, and a third canceled crucial marriage counseling with his wife, Freese said. At first, its like, There is no way this is happening but then it goes to anger, said Katie Thrush, a longtime Hillsong fan, a worship leader, and a survivor of abuse. I am grieved that what I said did not communicate or align with what I truly believe. i mean, the list of individuals, what they stand for, and what they do goes on and on. HOWEVER, Trump and Driscoll are NOT the problem they are the symptom of the complete failure of religious people to remotely consider Jesus. . Christian News Network questioned the wisdom of associating what most consider a vice alcohol with a church function. By subscribing to this BDG newsletter, you agree to our. We see this is the third article this month youve found worth reading. Hillsong blamed Houstons actions on sleeping tablets, per the Christian Post. . The conversation around Hillsong music also runs parallel to considerations around promoting the work of fallen pastors that have emerged in recent years. Jess and Reed were a byproduct of an unhealthy spiritual environment that reproduces the same type of leader over and over again, added Babbitt, who baby-sat for the Bogards during her years in NYC. I know better and will do better.. So wherever possible, we want to work together to move forward together on mission even with our different perspectives.. ]. She holds a PhD from the University of Iowa and researches music in Christian communities. Whites daughter, co-host of Apologias Sheologianspodcast, now has a new husband. This failure is on me, and me alone and I take full responsibility for my actions., Later that month, 34-year-old jewelry designer Ranin Karim revealed in Vanity Fair that she was the woman who had an affair with Lentz after they met earlier that year. Candidate Kari Lake at Freedom & Faith Concert, Mark Driscoll Claims Mars Hill Leaders Were Plotting to Accuse Him of Adultery, https://www.youtube.com/user/DoctorRamanDurvasula. The 2019 documentary about Michael Jacksons alleged sexual abuse of minors, Leaving Neverland, stirred fans to reconsider the artist and his musical legacy. In the apology later posted on social media, Giglio tried to explain what he meant by referring to slavery as a blessing. To some observers, McLeans conflict seems like a replay of other recent episodes from American evangelicalism, where leaders who appeal to Scripture to address social issues are accused of theological liberalism or secular influence even if they continue to hold traditional Christian views. STONE: Well, I suppose it depends on who you asked and how far back you went. This station is part of Cox Media Group Television. In the case of Hillsong, said Mercer-Taylor, the music will be handled as a commodity, subject to being unseated in the marketplace even if it has artistic or spiritual value. And, you know, his father helped him start that church. The Roys Report seeks to foster thoughtful and respectful dialogue. Last weekend, Louie Giglio, the pastor at Passion City Church in northeast Atlanta held a roundtable discussion about race -- and made controversial comments about slavery. That thought is repulsive. A number of things in this article are factually wrong, but abuse is NEVER ok. My understanding is that Anna was originally abused in her fathers church in Pennsylvania. If they do not follow through in repentance fully they will just soon end up repeating the same pattern with a different anti-Christ pastor. Opponents of McLeans current leadership wrote in a blog posted by the right-wing Capstone Report that Plattwho became pastor of the DC church full time in 2018was attempting to purge conservative members., Platt also described one email circulating that claimed MBC is no longer McLean Bible Church, that its now Melanin Bible Church., I know its so ugly and painful to even hear, but I want to point out the approach thats being used by people giving leadership to this group in these meetings, he told the congregation, calling the claims made about him and the incoming elders unquestionably untrue and in many cases completely unreasonable.. Hillsong has an unusual structure around the royalties for its music that gives the church the performance royalties in addition to those paid to the songwriters. The only people who can stop Driscoll are the authorities, if hes committing crimes, and the congregation by separating from him. 0:32. What he saw made him sick, he said. Driscoll distrusts everyone to the point of installing a firearm safe with assault rifles in your office and even having your detail carry collapsible carbines around campus, Freese said. Some older evangelicals see it as sort of a coup.. Thank you very much for joining us today. Prior to his resignation, Houston fired Lentz as the lead pastor at Hillsongs New York City location in November 2020, citing leadership issues and breaches of trust, plus a recent revelation of moral failures. Lentz addressed his termination in a 2020 Instagram post revealing that he had cheated on his wife, Laura. McLean stated in a Q&A on its website that Kelseys son held a poster that read, Black Lives Matter to God.. The big question still remains, how could they have ever supported him in the first place? However, when the church first launched in 2016, Evans and Morris were on a non-local governing board for Trinity, and Osborne was named as wise counsel for the church. They might be out here, lurking, trying to discern things for themselves. Visit our website terms of use and permissions pages at www.npr.org for further information. For the many who want to brush the concept of white privilege aside, this acknowledgment is an important step toward engaging the conversation. Here is the question I address to all of these mega pastors who feign their humility and godliness for all to see. Hillsong was seemingly out to make evangelical Christianity cool. Jesus answered them, I told you, and you do not believe. The Bogards did not respond to a request for comment. Does It Matter Where Your Clothes Come From? It speaks volumes to me and a lot of other people, Thrush said. Meanwhile, Hillsong said in a statement that the church was disappointed that Houston had been charged and asked that he be afforded the presumption of innocence and due process. I assure you there are more factual errors on the part of your staff than in Annas story, he wrote in response. If I wouldnt quote their pastor or allow him to preach in our pulpit, then I wont use the songs their bands write, wrote musician Dan Cogan in a blog post in 2016. As Solomon transitioned from leadership following a 37-year pastorate, McLean made major budget changes, scaling back the percentage of income spent on personnel and incentivizing staff departures. Perhaps its becoming common enough that theres a systemic failure right under our noses? Like, do we know its reach? But he concluded, To refuse to sing thoroughly biblical worship songs they wrote lest we be somehow tainted or defiled in doing so is both impractical and absurd and will only lead to a legalistic and Pharisaical local church culture.. Church leaders say the current round of conflict predates Platts pastorate. Even before the Hillsong news over the past two years, worship leaders in the US had been vetting worship hits on a theological basis. I mean, I get that you never saw it coming and the great sermons and books by these pastors have touched your lifeand now, this?! Youre gonna give that person a long leash, especially when youre not really in a position to do firsthand investigation. It is unclear, at the time of publication, whether White is leaving Phoenix Reformed Baptist Church as elder and member, however, dual-membership is not really something that happens regularly in Reformed Baptist Churches (but on the other hand, Apologia is not a Reformed Baptist Church). Ive never in my life thought there was any blessing in slavery. It must be a lonely life not really being vulnerable or known. In June 2019, then-President Donald Trump showed up at a worship service and Platt prayed for him from the stage, an action that drew criticism from some in the church. It should be noted that Apologia Church is passionate about the abolition of human abortion and holds to orthodox, non-heretical theology. Following months of internal scandal and shocking allegations, Hillsongs founders have informed congregants that the Australia-based institutions only Texas church will be closing up shop until further notice. Picture a world where you like the preaching and the criticism is mostly coming from people who seem to have an axe to grind with the person, the church, or the theology. In January 2022, Houston stepped away from his ministry duties, citing a need to fight the criminal charge of concealing his fathers alleged past child sexual abuse. Over the last several years, weve watched David take the churchthe church we built, the church we love, the church weve poured are hearts and souls and lives intoand turned it into a political, stripped-down version of what it used to be, wrote former elder Mark Gottlieb, who is encouraging members of a group called Save McLean Bible Church to admit defeat and walk away after the July 18 vote. Following months of internal scandal and shocking allegations, Hillsong's founders have informed congregants that the. Now, the former head of security at Driscoll's new church in Scottsdale, ArizonaThe Trinity Churchis pleading with these pastors to act. Chick-fil-A CEO Dan Cathy also took part in Giglios roundtable. ATLANTA The pastor of an Atlanta mega church is now asking for forgiveness. The podcast is about fame, faith and power . Freese volunteered on the churchs security team for eight months and he served as director of security for seven weeks. The Washington-area megachurch led by best-selling author David Platt has affirmed three new eldersbut only after a public tussle over politics, race, and alleged liberal drift, plus a lawsuit filed by dissenters. I have truly lost all faith that any of this will be made right, Phalon said. The question becomes, What do you do when you have teams of young people who have worked really hard at what they do and are really good at it? Mercer-Taylor said. Neither is it clear what a Scholar in Residence is, a term usually applied to academic institutions and not churches. NPR transcripts are created on a rush deadline by an NPR contractor. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of "Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse" by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. The pastor then went on to describe a new term for white privilege.. But most of the critics dont. Good evening Staff/Family, If I were the HR leader in a large corporate organization, it would be expected and required for to construct a political statement to affirm the monumental results of the verdict of guilty for all three felony charges in the public murder of Mr. George . Certainly, it seems like the most recent scandals and the U.S.-based sort of implosion really started a little over 18 months ago when the celebrity pastor of Hillsong New York City, Carl Lentz, was fired for an extramarital affair. Leaving is the first step in repentance, not the last. . Beyond that a pastor that makes his way into something this cultish is really the blind leading the blind. Its also possible a pastor gets involved thinking maybe he can make a positive difference, then realizes the guy is a sociopath. According to Dr. Ramani narcissism has classically been mainly a male trait but with the feminism movement the girls have been catching up increasingly in recent years. From whom did the most famous of the Prophets: Elijah run from, from the King or the Queen? The reason Freese is pleading with these powerbrokers is that he hasnt yet fully realised how the system works. It was the most toxic thing I ever had to deal with, she claims. McLean Bible Church, the multisite megachurch in McLean, Virginia near Washington, D.C. where David Platt pastors, confirmed three new elders Sunday in a revote where members labeled their ballots with their names. He also warned against letting tensions swell. The Roys Report reached out to Evans and Osborne through their ministries but has not heard back. Perhaps it is all right that his music continues to be heard, so long as it comes with a caveat: that it reminds us great art can be made by terrible people, that talent can be weaponised in the most appalling way, that believing an artist automatically embodies goodness because we like their work is a dreadful mistake that can have awful consequences. While Piper, MacDonald, the Mars Hill Elders, the Acts 29 Leadership, Matt Chandler (too late), Paul Troop, the Gospel Coalitionwhole all of these completely blind friendswere trying to Iove Mark Driscoll through their private counsel, who was trying to LOVE the Church Universal while Driscoll was running around like a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour. Many are in fear of your retaliation. In his open letter, Freese says his family attended The Trinity Church for almost three years and his wife attended Mars Hill under Driscolls leadership there. Under founding pastor Lon Solomon, McLean launched a church planting partnership with the SBCs North American Mission Board in 2016 while remaining nondenominational. Since the explosion of the song Shout to the Lord in 1994, Sydney-based Hillsong has shaped worship in the US, particularly among Pentecostals and evangelicals. Freese addresses Driscoll directly in the open letter, alleging a slew of questionable behaviors ranging from fostering a toxic culture to avoiding oversight; implementing over-the-top security measures out of distrust and paranoia; harassing others and allowing subordinates to do so; and mishandling a case of possible child abuse. That hes been able to go on destroying more lives with a ministry platform certainly links back to you. 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Blind guides.They apparently do not hear or talk to God for discernment. February 22, 2023. Beyond that this man is wasting his time in writing this for these celebrities only listen to other celebrities. They argued that these werent fundraisers, but only events used to raise funds. They insisted that Apologia Church was a positive recovery environment for alcoholics and addicts, in spite of a booze fundraiser and certain lay leaders like Marcus Pittman who encouraged alcoholics to drink with control in order to prove their sanctification. The level of suspicion around such leaders appears to have grown during the Trump administration and during the reckoning over racism following George Floyds death last year. The global megachurch was known for attracting celebrities in the late 2010s. On March 23, Houston resigned from Hillsong. And that really seems like the sort of first domino in the U.S. CHANG: Yeah. He continues to hurt many people and it is now getting out of control. This existence is no sort of life for a pastor. But youll be hard-pressed to find a college course on the era that doesnt include his works, even if they must come with an asterisk. Brisky also didnt specify whether Morriss availability for counsel extended to all church leadership, including volunteers like Freese. Learn about careers at Cox Media Group. Guess what didnt surprise me at all? Think about it: Every email they write, every meeting they have, every sermon they give is them doing their very best to make sure that people know Jesus. I apologize for any pain I have caused. Chuck Hannaford, a Memphis clinical psychologist who has helped churches mediate conflicts for 30 years, said McLeans troubles are the latest iteration of a broader conflict between younger Reformed Christians and older generations of white evangelicals. Driscoll and his staff slander people and cause division in the church and in personal relationships, rather than bringing their concerns directly to those they criticize, Freese said. I think its easier to be a lone adherent to Biblical meaning making; than it is to be an adherent within a Church. For our premium ad-free experience, including exclusive podcasts, issues and more, subscribe to. Now that we got it, I believe we can finally move on.. There are now too many to count. Whites former son-in-laws family blamed Apologia Church for their loved ones stumbling into sin. Browse 60+ years of magazine archives and web exclusives. He also said he resigned from his role as director of security due to the immoral, unethical, and unbiblical actions by the pastors and staff.. Another woman, Leona Kimes, whod worked for the Lentzs as a nanny, also alleged that Lentz took photos of and touched her without permission, and that both he and Laura had mocked and bullied her daily. Hell gradually realise. We pray that James White will influence Apologia Church more than Apologia Church will influence James White. He was considered one of the youngest megachurch pastors in the country when he . CHANG: That is the managing editor of Religion News Service, Roxanne Stone. Yet, several high-profile pastors who have longtime supported Driscoll have stayed silent, including Jimmy Evans of XO Marriage, Robert Morris of Gateway Church, and North Coast Church's Larry Osborne. The Driscoll story and the Willow Creek story and the Harvest Story and the reports of pastors buying their own books to become NYT best sellers and the money that just keeps rolling in to fund these wolves in sheeps clothing. Roxanne Stone is managing editor of Religion News Service, and she is here to explain. Scripture says we are to do it that way so that the church fears this happening again. In the post, the chief made controversial comments about the Black Lives Matter movement. Thanks so much for having me. Hillsong Church was once the face of what's called Charismatic Christianity or, less kindly, it was also known as a hipster megachurch. But it's a huge church with campuses all over the world, with friends in very powerful places and certainly in the U.S. And the New York campus, that was known for these lines around the block. Driscolls staff failed to inform church attendees when staffers had had COVID-19 or whether any had been contagious while at services. STONE: Well, before the pandemic, they talked about having 30 campuses globally, over 150,000 people attending. This Mark Driscoll is a deranged psychopath. How else could an inveterate liar, serial adulterer bragging about assaulting women con-artist who was convicted of overt fraud at least twice (Trump University, Trump Foundation) and is entirely anti-Christ now completely engaged in the Big Lie destroying the greatest country on the earth be the darling of the white American evangelical community.:-(????? But recent sexual misconduct scandals and a new Discovery+ documentary series have led its founder and global leader to resign and over half its U.S. campuses to disaffiliate, all within weeks. Editors note: A version of this story originally ran in 2016 when former megachurch pastor Tullian Tchividjian posted an article, explaining how deeply his own scandal affected him, even leading him to the point of suicide. Yeah. 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Disgraced pastor Mark Driscoll, who once called women homes for mens genitalia, is now advertising that he wants to heat up your, On Thursday, Arizona gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake held a Freedom & Faith concert in Scottsdale, an event that was attended by notable, Mark Driscoll, who resigned from Mars Hill Church in 2014 amid allegations of bullying and arrogance, is now claiming church leaders were. Get the best from CT editors, delivered straight to your inbox! Here is the controversial email in its entirety (bold emphasis added mine, all grammar errors left unchanged). Copyright 2022 NPR. When the pandemic was heating up, I learned that some people will jump on board with anything, some will never jump on board, and everyone else is going to come on board at different times based on a lot of factors. I have tremendous admiration for you, Evans told Driscoll in a similar birthday video The Trinity Church posted. .However, the last year he has proven he never truly repented nor changed. Accuracy and availability may vary. Both moves raised questions for some members. The church has hosted these monthly events, blending . The weeks between the two votes were tumultuous. I just wanted to come to you today and sincerely apologize for the use of the phrase on Sunday, white blessing.. Anyone looking to have a nuanced conversation about the future of Hillsongs music in the church may benefit from considering how musicologists and critics talk about important music with a troubling backstory. I want you to know I wasnt ok with it even as I sat there I was very uncomfortable, said Lecrae. 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